Thursday, November 20, 2008

lies, damn lies and builders promises...


Hey all, thought I should update the blog as we have not posted for 3 weeks. This is because we believed PD when they told us they were going to put in our dispensation early. The scenario goes something like this...

We found T&L (the cherubs) on the net, and worked out we had just bought the block next door. As they are the first house in the street, their setback set the standard for the street. (7.5m) As we are building a loooong single storey, we wanted to build closer to the front so we have some backyard to fit a trampoline and maybe later a lap pool. We have a 3 metre easement across the back of the block.

No dramas, we spoke to T&L who were really cool about the whole thing. Spoke to the council, we need a dispensation $205. Had discussions with PD PRIOR to tender and they said that they would apply for the dispensation when we signed the tender so it would all be underway for a November start. Told PD we knew the neighbours etc and we could take the plans and get them signed etc. No thanks we were told, we'll mail them.

So at tender we are charged $462 for the dispensation ($205 is the council fee) not happy. Will not budge, as they have to copy plans, mail costs and put it through their building permit people. Ok, as they are doing it early for us, ok.

Got to contract and saw that the permit applied for is 10/10/08? hmm, suppose that is the actual permit. We ended up bringing settlement on the land forward because everything was done, we were just waiting on the dispensation, which should have already been through as it was started on 24/9/08 at tender, we believed.

Waiting, waiting, come 10th November, I ring the council, spoke to a lovely lady on the phone for 45 minutes there is definitely NO application for our block.

Rang PD, not happy, in fact, quite hot under the collar. Despite being told that the dispensation was going to be started on 24 September, it was not started until 10 October. Then they had to apply to the council to find out who owned the blocks of land either side of us. I had told them, but THEY CANNOT BELIEVE ME, they have to apply to the council for this info and it took 3 weeks to get this information back. They did send to T&L who kindly signed and sent back. The other block is not sold, therefore it is still in the name of the developers.
These guys have made their money, this is stage 21 and they cleared the 25M mortgage in 2005 so every block from here is pure profit. Consequently, although there is a salesperson, they only "attend" the office every week or so. It took two weeks to get the contract of sale for the land signed and returned to me! We have to wait for 2 weeks to give them a chance to object. Taking us to 17 November, then PD wanted to wait until 19th, to give Aust Post a couple of extra days "in case". Graciously, then have supposedly sent off the application "early" on the 17th.

Now my bitch is that the council have people on holidays and their current turnaround is 3-4 weeks instead of 7-10 days. This means we may not get back the dispensation until 9th December and then it takes two weeks of organising to get to site scrape. They will not get anything done in December, which means at the earliest a January start (we got a letter saying 19th January is when trades are back).

So, we have to pay the mortgage on the land for November, December and half of January as well as our current house all for nothing. AND the bloody contract days do not start until site scrape, so this time is not even eating into our contract days. IF they start on 19 January, our contract days mean we should be in by the end of September 2009.
Our CSC is doing her best and it is not fair that I vented at her for someone else's undertaking. But as the saying goes, "you take their money, you take their sh*t".
Now I have had big vent, according to murphy's law, I should get a phone call tomorrow telling me they have the okay from council and the file will go to construction Monday and all this angst has been for nought.
Yeah, then the alarm clock went off...

15 comments:

would be home said...

Not a very good way to start the process. Its shocking to see that some people out there just dont want to do their jobs right. We all work and hold ourselves responsible for our actions and i wonder some people dont have a guilt which forces them to do the right thing. I really hope that yuor dream comes true and you get an early start. Good luck

BelleBeau said...

Thanks WBH, I suppose that makes it so infuriating because I would never do that. I honour my word and I expect others to do the same. Has there been any action with your slab yet? Any word from your SS?

DeGaul said...

Hi Belle'. Shame your start has been delayed. Sounds like someone hasn't done their job.
Chin up. That site scrape will happen shortly, and then watch the progress.

Thuy said...

omgosh BelleBeau! I can't believe they did that to you! Sounds like your copping it from both ends, PD and council...

Its not good enough that something that should take 7-10 days is going to take 3-4 weeks....don't people work over xmas!? hahahaha

Don't worry, Jan will come by in no time, and hopefully the new year will be better :)

Lexriel said...

Ouch BelleBeau...

I was thinking that you might start your construction before mine knowing that my admin process is quite slow too... but looks like you gonna have the delay till January...

I would be pissed too if it happened to me.
Hopefully everything goes well from here and can start asap. Good Luck...

Anonymous said...

Hi BB,
And you reckon we're coping some dramas! You haven't even started your build. I really feel for you because the most anxious part (it was for us) is waiting for something to START - anything.

I always say ... prepare yourself for the worst and anything better than that is a bonus.

Hang in there.
Liana

K AND T said...

Bummer! BIG one!! HUGE!! What can I say?? I think we can all feel your pain and shitiness at what has been done to you. Hopefully, if we all have to have some dramas with building a new house, then this is yours. Have yourself a nice stiff drink...it may not be the answer, but it helps to forget the question! ;-)

BelleBeau said...

Thanks everyone

DG - I think it is just excitement waiting for something to happen, then the let down, like they moved christmas to January!

Newbies - Thanks, I imagine the time will go quick for you too, with the wedding coming up!

Hi lexriel, looks like we will start together after all! Any idea when you'll start now?

Liana, how true is that! "Prepare youself for the worst.." I am an obsessive planner and I already had a plan c for a January start, unfortunately, it means no pool. Bummer!

Hi K, Many people have had a worse time, I just needed to vent, thanks for reading. My kids know that the worst thing they can do is to lie. I can't abide lying and that has just tipped me over the edge. I rang council yesterday to confirm that they really had it this time. Guess what, the application letter address said "Wattle Valley Dve, Mooroolbark", but all the plans and paperwork they lodged were for my block!! Apparently it is now sorted, it was for my block and it is in a very long queue. Hoping the phone call and my sorry story will move it up a few places. Fingers crossed!!

R&C's Brookvale 45 Home said...

Hey Guys, just read your blog, we actually took the paperwork to our neighbour's for the dispensation we needed, then waited for over two months before things got going. I think there is a bit of get you in the door early but from reading most peoples blogs the timelines seem the same, 3 months from signup. It is disappointing to see.

R&C

Toni said...

BB.......while I feel very sorry for you that you have been delayed and yes someone ought to be shot for not doing it properly I think it may be in your favour. Seeing as it's getting close to Christmas you don't really want your frame sitting out in the weather for too long. A slab before Christmas would be great, it'll cure nicely over the break but you don't really want a frame or part of one sitting there......that's my advice for the day :-)

In saying that I hope the paperwork is done asap for you :-)

Hope

BelleBeau said...

R&C, does seem like 3 months regardless doesn't it? I am just peeved because we could have pushed back settlement and saved around 4k. which is a lot of money to us.
Hey T, yes, I agree that having the frame sitting probably wouldn't be a good idea. I'd like to think they could get the dlab done but who knows? Your place is looking great!!

Toni said...

Thank you :-)

Petal said...

Oh, that's SOOO enfuriating,isn't it? I felt the same way - that they just told you one thing and did another - we were given 3 site start dates before they actyually DID start!

Hopefully all the red tape stuff IS in the system now, and that's the last of your problems - fingers crossed!!!

Lexriel said...

We might start in 2 weeks time (early dec?)

But then bcuz of the Christmas and New Year, yeah we might not be too far away from each other :)

BelleBeau said...

Yes Petal, it infuriates me when I am lied to. I hate it. If they were upfront then c'est la vie. It just starts us off on the wrong foot I think.

Whoo Hoo lexriel, saw that you have a start date. Congratulations!!!